Then run it. I cant decide who is more amusingly deluded, guys who make purchasing decisions today based on concerns about hilariously unlikely post-apocalyptic scenarios, or guys who carry a rifle in their car on the off chance they need to stop a terrorist attack. And I was far from the only one. And if Mr. Smith is saying .223 is the one cartridge to rule them all rifle-wise, whats with that ammo arranged in front of him? Opinions belong to their authors. Just sayin . Depends on the range. ", "You cannot save the planet. Go to a gun show, and see the multiple tables of parts for the AR. Fudds and Fud advice everywhere in this comment section. First, no one really builds an AR Even the AR Manufactures assemble the parts from a few background foundries that cast / mill the parts to Mill spec. Q:Any advice for new shooters?A:Its actually three words: practice, practice, practice. Then ask why there arent tables of parts for the AK. Fuck me right? In this episode of TFBTV filmed at Thunder Ranch, James Reeves interviews legendary trainer and good friend, Clint Smith, about his five favorite guns. Its like buying a second car to have the parts to fix the first one. .233/5.56 are completely viable rounds. And mark your magazines with date loaded, and load. Absolutely! so i suck it up and carry heavy. Granted, the .308/7.6251 is a lot less punishing than .30 M2 Ball, 7.62x54R, or 8mm Mauser. Hey, build it, buy it, just get it! WebClint showed us what he thought was a very good, reasonably priced rifle. Some describe Clint Smith as a firearms instructor, stand-up comic, and social philosopher rolled into one small man. But this gave us the opportunity to step out on our own. That being said, I still prefer something bigger and badder thats still very common. Life is risky. Sergei, Those people who would be surprised that an AR is somehow not a true DI gun would include everyone from firearms designers to gunsmiths, and firearms historians. Thats what your bolt carrier is. Very entertaining to see that the same Im an operator advice is still making these YouTube goobers money. Didnt somebody once say that one should not carry a pistol he cant afford to replace if it gets seized as evidence after a self-defense use? First, I agree on the viability of the .223 round. its a showing off item, because he can, he can shoot anything well, so choose what makes him feel good. First, NO ammo will be lying around it will be in someones bunker, even if it wasnt when the SHTF. Hes not saying 55gn 5.56 is ballistically the best, but that its just fine within its ample limitations and is orders-of-magnitude more common than heavier or bigger loads. Nothings wrong with assembling your own AR. But for the rest of us, maybe a rifle and a full kit of parts? Its anall steel 5 Government Model chambered in 45ACP. Waiting for the video to load doesnt count towards your time. Keep dreaming about your fantasies Fudds. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Mike Pannone of CTT Carries a CZ. WebA collaborative design effort between Thunder Ranchs Clint Smith and Nighthawk engineers, the TR model encompasses the feature set of the perfect fighting pistol. If you look at English heraldry, the black shield was always construed to mean a bastard, or someone who was not politically aligned with a king or kingdom. Wildfires and earthquakes are possibilities Im willing to live with. So the shield is defenseaccuracy, power and speed. Uncle Adolf commanded his Riech from a castle nicknamed the Eagles nest a top a mountain in Bavaria for much of The War. Much to most peoples surprise, the AR is not a true DI gun as the gas never directly acts on the bolt. Be among the first to hear about gun raffles, firearms training, and special events. Im already out of ammo. So, an old curmudgeonly gun guy with an abrasive attitude and no shortages of opinions. 2002-2023 Buckeye Firearms Association, PO Box 87, Blue Creek, OH 45616. I served six years in the Marines Corps as an 0311. Ammo is not cheap, range time is not cheap, training is not cheap. And that translates to any other AR you may come across from battle field pickup, to a friends rifle. But it does mean one needs to examine more than just how it makes one feel. You put 5 time as much into it then what it cost new (in this case, closer to 7) and you are lucky if you get half the money back when you go sell it. No matter how many mags, they should all be loaded though. That bad boy msrps at an eye-watering $1,329.00. I believe this concept was pioneered by Chuck Norris. Thats what the CZ SP-01 Shadow (or a Jericho 941 on an EAA Witness or a Sphynx ) offers. Yes, I know the gun wasnt loaded, but Im not too much on the way he kept moving his fingers in front of the barrel, with the hammer cocked. He must piss off a lot of people. @ 16V No need to be so salty, but I think he was referring to Ian McCollum, head of Forgotten Weapons on youtube and full30.com, since he usually sports a long flowing beard and hair, hence gun Jesus. After the FBI shooting [in Miami] Ive taught more Urban Rifle classes than any of the other types of classes, combinedlike if you take of all of the different pistol classes we teach and put them together, Ive taught more Urban Rifle classes. And with the rapid reloaders now available, perhaps 25 at a time would be reasonable with cycling them to unloaded status while another 25 are loaded. On the drive home he said this (semi-automatic pistols) is what were going to do. You can reliably hunt most big game animals in North America. Everybody laughs at this, but we were actually winning the hearts and minds of these people. That Glock employee that writes ads for them called magazine articles? The pistol ships with a RD soft case and (1) 30-round magazine. Beavertail grip safety Out. ", Complete Legal Protection for Armed Self Defense - Read This. Yellow Devil, if you think that was somehow salty, do stick around, I brook no blatant stupidity or ignorance, and Im happy to argue a point with anyone especially Ian, he should know better. The AR, OTOH, is not cheap to build, took several design changes to become reliable, and is more labor- and parts-intensive to maintain. The new Les Baer CustomThunder Ranch 1911 is a serious, no-nonsense self-defense pistol conceived by Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch, one of the premier training facilities dedicated to teaching people how to survive in a tough, unfriendly world. and I really like having the light. ? Fuck youuu!. Feed your kids. When the apocalypse the be TEN f*ckload of 7.6239 lying around. Exactly what does Thunder Pants think TEOTWAWKI is going to look like? We ran two ambushes at night and set up road blocks for identification checks, so we had a security area. So, you wonder, what does Mr. Smith carry for personal protection? Accept nothing nearly right or good enough., Sir Henry Royce, co-founder of Rolls Royce. 5. Stupid, stupid notion. The lightning bolt is offense, as required. member and precision rifleman. According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. In 83 I started my own business, ITC, International Training Consultants, and worked on the road from 1983 to 1993, and the only exception was in 1986 worked for one year setting up the training division for HK America. I took Vietnamese, a southern dialect, and I went to Vietnam. . Suarez has the RMR topic dialed in. I have no regrets in doing so, but it still stung to do it. We have a shotgun drill called Rolling Thunder, but Rolling Thunder is too wordy. WebWHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO IN THE CLASS. ", "I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy. Centuries old, so believe it. a 9mm will defeat cover just as well as .45 and 9mm has just as much kinetic energy as a .45 when you compare modern 9mm ammo to modern .45 ammo. Q:What is the most common mistake that you see while training, and what is the correction?A:Manipulation of the trigger. Having lived through big ole hurricanes when I lived in Florida, and now living on the edge of Harveys footprint in Texas, it says to me, a couple days of flooding and bad weather, a couple weeks of scarcity of common goods, and several months or years of rebuilding while normal life goes on. . This. A Jason Burton custom 1911 built on a co-branded Colt Series 70 pistol. I need to love my wife, take care of my dogs, defend my country, take care of my health and I have no foreseeable goal to retire. If Ayoob said it, then its as good as gospel. Sowhat is my sincere, heartfelt recommendation? He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns. In this case, someone dumped 9000 worth of work into a $1300 gun, so.. Well, it has a Standard length magazine release. That must cost extra. I carry a revolver. He is one of the most interesting men Ive ever met. Beveled magazine well Dont know who Clint Smith is and dont give a rats ass what he carries. Get weekly news and instant alerts on the latest laws and politics that affect your gun rights. Standard length magazine release And keep the change kits available for your ARs on hand. And again, I got to grow, I was allowed to grow inside a box. Which feeds right into Clints advice to have three rifles and strip one for spare parts, if need be. Three of each gun? Please feel free to drop a comment. The Thunder Ranch product line is a joint venture between Aero Precision and Thunder Ranch. +1 on building an AR. ( oh, what GUN does Clint Smith carry every day. ARMSCORs RIA 5.0 ST semi-automatic 9 mm Luger pistol represents the companys first handgun to be designed and manufactured here in the United States. Be humble. I will probably never need to make a 300 yard shot with my AK, just as the vast majority of AR owners will also never need to make a 300 yard shot. The Police buy a ton of Glocks really cheap. My mantra to my students isWalmart calibers because when things get really really bad, standard calibers were developed, tested, marketed and issued for a reason. We also had a tactical area of operations, the CAP units were set in a ring around Da Nang with the idea of neutralizing those villages where there was a potential [for the enemy] to launch rockets into the airbase. (But make SURE it's not already listed. If you are as poor a pistol competitor as i am, youll quickly find out what training and equipment can fix that problem. But I have tried others. AVOID GREEN TIP. Aimed to achieve Clint Smiths ideal purpose built Ultimate During the summer I had the opportunity to visit Clint and Heidi Smith at their Thunder Ranch training facility in Oregon for the unveiling of the Nighthawk Precision has been in business since 1999. Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch, is part drill instructor, and part stand up comic. Q:How did you first get into training?A:I dont think I was very good at it at the time, but my first experience training was in Vietnam. Just layin around? Hahahaha But they are just one category of tools (and toys). 3. See how this works? For the first three years it was teachable but slow. and that was before all the news about negligent discharge Tried the Walther P-99 in 40, liked it but could not shoot it to high competency, ditto for the Browning Hi Power, really wanted to like it, but could not shoot it well. This isnt going to be US army vs Russian army conventional warfare unless you are an idiot. So with the 1911, I dont feel behind the curve with that gun, and I have a couple Glocks, Glock 17s in 9 mm. Lowered and flared ejection port Anything other than an AR15 and you are dependent on a stationary weapons cache at least for parts. The rifles use a tunable front/sight gas block design from Rifle Dynamics. We need 1000 rounds of magazine stuffed ammo ? Ive built three, including one from an 80% upper, and guess what? . My first real pistol, in Vietnam, was a 1911. And taking shots at 700 yards? [#25] I may get killed with my own gun, but he's gonna have to beat me to death with it, cause it's gonna be empty. . High end firearms are like project cars. This is not the first time Mr. Smith or his proxies have created a gun. Like this: There is a sign that hangs in my shop with the following quote: Strive for perfection in everything. After reminding his acolytes that they need to be able to pick up and run firearms discarded on the battlefield, Mr. Smith goes there. I was in the Marine Corps, but I went to the Army language institute in Monterrey [Calif.]. WebClint Smith Signature. Plus its not hard and they work just fine. But i do shoot a Kimber 1911 very well. One day Clint will come out of his shell and we will know what he really thinks. For more on the Thunder Ranch RD700 pistol or other Rifle Dynamic AKs, click here. The final weapon is the brain. I am here to be transparent and honest on all matters discussed or chronicled on this site. Now, the two companies have paired up again for the limited Edition Thunder Ranch RD700 pistol. And, no, I dont have an AR. Ive taken quite a few of his classes through the years. Therell be a f*ckload of .223 laying around.. ", "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him 'Why do you carry a 45?' lives depend on me not missing. Those gentlemen have my respect more than Clint, given the more recent tenure both had in active combat zones, and they have the most extreme level of military special ops training, and i m even from Oregon, so nothing against Thunder Ranch. This culminated in the founding of But I trained on the 1911, carried it, and it works best for me. And not only in our government? My gently used, $400.00 G17 will kill an asshole just as dead as a $10,000 whatever. Yes! Heres where Im breaking with Clint. How do I schedule so I have people in this place and that place? Back in 2020, Rifle Dynamics and Thunder Ranch brought us the Thunder Ranch AK, built under the design specifications of Clint Smith. Ive got enough spare parts that I will build another very soon. That said, I dont care that the .380 sales are up 500percent, I wouldnt have that gun up my butt if I had room for a tugboatIm not betting my life on that gun. I have a good plan to get out of the suburbs into the country well before its too late and multiple friends with extra temporary living space and extra long arms, and if the time comes that I need a rifle well before then, there will be plenty of common (AR or AK) rifles in common calibers around to acquire/steal/take/etc. Especially if he has fallen prey to the fallacy that somehow just because of patent claims, somehow Stoners AR/M platform is not, by definition, direct impingement. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association. I think you underestimate just how much truly cheap surplus x39 is still hanging around in garages and closets. The first is my sheriff, whos passed now, his name was Charles Meeks and he provided me the opportunity to get training and to expand the training program that we had. And I shoot them a lot. WebClint Smith, President, and Director of Thunder Ranch is a Marine Corps veteran of two infantry and Combined Action Platoon tours in Vietnam. I would expect no less. Its available in both .45 ACP and 9mm, but as Landon Stone of Nighthawk related to me, its almost all 9mm now. +1 Thinking one is going to live through thousands of rounds of gun fighting (unless one is on the big side of an extremely asymetrical match) is indeed arrogance and idiocy. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). Rifle Dynamics & Thunder Ranch Team Up For The Thunder Ranch RD700 Pistol. Knowing how to build a rifle is a good thing, not a bad thing. Thanks you enjoyed this post, hit that like button, share it a friend, and subscribe. As long as you dont go to far off the Mill spec reservation All you really need is a good YT video and a few special punches, an armors tool and bench vice to assemble an AR. Heidis mom lives in Bend, so that brought Heidi back a little closer to home. I chose .308/7.62X51 for this reason. Maybe its just the way my mind works; form follows function, not the other way around. I own both an AK and AR, 1911 and glock. '", "When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away. Ian has always been very specific what the AR-15 system is, and pointed out that true DI systems would be the Swedish AG-42 Ljungman/Hakim or French MAS-49. Hundreds of mags each? The receiver of Thunder Ranch AK pistol can be fitted with Picatinny rail rear trunnion. Not that they couldnt, just that they will probably never need to. Mere mortals need to make do with what they can. Heirloom Precision Gold Line front sight Guns and ammo are good tools to have. Q:How did you go from a Marine in a CAP unit in Vietnam to founding Thunder Ranch?A:OK, so long story short, I came back from the Marine Corps and went into law enforcement. The sight is the last visual control over the projectile, the trigger is the last physical control. Certainly, knowing how to fix what you have is a plus. Change the channel to Oprah? 2. If its that bad that were needing that amount of ammo, youre really only going to be able to take what you can fit in a vehicle or two, and youre going to need more than just ammo at that point. Spend your life using a tool and an AR is no where near the challenge setting the vale lash or run out on a ring and pinon, BTW If you dont have any idea about later then maybe youd be better off buying yours until you have built something that is mechanically challenging before you attempt assembling an AR. (I think the only spare parts you really need for an AR is a spare BCG and a spring kit.). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. To be more specific, my 13 year old just finished our first AR build together. His work appears very, very nice. Im not going to buy his rifle, just because he thinks my build or any others that build are not good rifles. But weapons wont make a difference. As for Mr. Smiths advice not to build your own AR buy one that works, then buy another of the same sort, and then buy a third I can almost hear the sound of rifle makers tapping their keyboards to thank the Thunder Ranch supremo. The stainless barrel bushing on a blued barrel/slide/frame Im not so sure about the visual appearance of that Im going to go off and think about that. .40SW is just hype. I support building your own AR even if it includes machining the lower. As for the viability of 5.56, it aint the best but it WILL get the job done(especially the 75+grain stuff). Those include jams due to case expansion. It certainly doesnt say post-apocalyptic hellscape., certainly doesnt say post-apocalyptic hellscape.. . Being a progressive is fun! Center of mass, perp is down. To achieve certain flight parameters, there are certain way the wing and control surfaces must be made. probably because I spent far more time with it on MGs and G3/CETMEs than I ever did with my issue M16A2 or civilian AR15. From his Oregon Eagles Nest (Im Jewish, dont judge), Whats the issue with Jews and eagle nests? the AK 15 passed trials and will be issued WITH the AK 12 and a new RPK chambered in. Hes just putting it in terms you can remember. If you have a stockpile, good enough. Being everybody exaggerates, we can safely cut that back one half or more. A long time. Q:What can you tell me about the logo?A:The shield was the first logo for ITC, the black shield. Love em all. My familys business, or trade so to speak, was law enforcementmy dad, my brother, my uncle. As to the video guy, I have to disagree on dont build your AR, buy one! Smith & Wesson sells the PERFORMANCE CENTER Model 325 Thunder Ranch: a matte black .45-caliber Scandium-framed revolver, complete with a gold bead Not having taken a class from him, Im in no position to comment on the fighting techniques he teaches. Read the headline too quickly. James Yeager recommends keeping a spare fully assembled bolt in the battery compartment of your grip just in case you break an extractor or shear a locking lug because the AR15 bolt will do both. Well he certainly brings the noise to Thunder Ranchs jefe, creating theThe Clint Smith Signature Government Model. Hes not talking about having fun on the range or competing in 3-gun. And while youre assembling your family armory, you may as well throw in a lot of loaded mags. Does that 33 minutes include the haggling over the price? He was also a vegetarian and hated tobacco, so all you vegetarians & anti-smokers are nazis, mmmmmk? However i have seen the real need for more than 8+1 even if it is a .45 He was rigidly, rigidly flexible. This Clint Smith 1911 item is a VERY nice glamor piece. Jews dont conspire with eagles in nest building. Clint Smith ofThunder Ranch is a gun guru extraordinaire. New bosssame as the old boss. But, obscure ones is overkill and too expensive. And we wanted to have a place that was ours. Everyday Carry Pocket Dump of the Day: J.S. Ha! (Oh, wait), Hehe. Shotguns have a very high velocity of recoil. Remember, this was before social media and all that kind of stuff. 1. WebM4E1 TR EDITION. I want to teach a class a week after Im dead. Yes, every once in a while you get lucky and purchase a Yenko Mustang, but that is the exception, not the rule. The Clint Smith Signature Government Model is built to the same specs as Clints personal Colts, the same guns he carries on a daily basis. Was a bit surprised by this article that Clint isnt carrying one of those anymore actually. The felt necessity to have one for spare parts does not speak well for the reliability of the platform. If it doesnt exist, create it. Heirloom Precision Gold Line front sight Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun 22LR J-Frame It can take deer sized game and it will obviously get you through a firefight. Clints advice is sound, and I believe well intentioned. That said, Im going to be a fricken goldmine when they kill me. Might as well live somewhere interesting while youre here. Caliber war? Second, I agree on the idea of three rifles of the same brand and model. No, Ill save my money instead.
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